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 Post subject: Re: LIND COVERS
PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:18 am 
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Hey Bob Numbers, always good hearing from you.
That info's not quite right. Sonny's solo album INNVER VIEWS was released in 1967. But "Cheryl's Goin Home" isn't on it.
The album you're thinking of is THE TWO OF US which is by Sonny AND Cher. I'm in good company on that album. It also contains, "Let it Be Me," "Unchained Melody" and Tim Hardin's classic "Misty Roses."


Yes, THE TWO OF US was a double LP which came out in the mid 70s that featured many of Sonny & Cher's 60s recordings. It's never been on CD. Sonny & Cher's version of "Cheryl's Goin' Home" originally appeared on their IN CASE YOU'RE IN LOVE LP in 1967, which is available on CD, although I think it's out of print now and goes for big bucks (believe it or not). Be warned however, the vocals on "Cheryl's Goin' Home" are all done by Sonny......no Cher to be found on this track, unfortunately.

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 Post subject: Re: LIND COVERS
PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:36 am 
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rob68 wrote:
Lind wrote:
Hey Bob Numbers, always good hearing from you.
That info's not quite right. Sonny's solo album INNVER VIEWS was released in 1967. But "Cheryl's Goin Home" isn't on it.
The album you're thinking of is THE TWO OF US which is by Sonny AND Cher. I'm in good company on that album. It also contains, "Let it Be Me," "Unchained Melody" and Tim Hardin's classic "Misty Roses."


Yes, THE TWO OF US was a double LP which came out in the mid 70s that featured many of Sonny & Cher's 60s recordings. It's never been on CD. Sonny & Cher's version of "Cheryl's Goin' Home" originally appeared on their IN CASE YOU'RE IN LOVE LP in 1967, which is available on CD, although I think it's out of print now and goes for big bucks (believe it or not). Be warned however, the vocals on "Cheryl's Goin' Home" are all done by Sonny......no Cher to be found on this track, unfortunately.

Thanks Bob. I got my information from here:
http://www.starpulse.com/Music/Bono,_So ... 1/R494037/
It appears that the release in question is a compilation consisting of the original Inner Views release plus various other recordings by Sonny, including Cheryl's Goin' Home, which as you said was not on the original Inner Views.

I hear where you're coming from rob - It's true that Sonny did not have a great voice, but some artists manage to carry it off in spite of that, witness Bob Dylan, Tom Waits, Rod Stewart, Marianne Faithfull and many others. I have only heard one of Sonny's solo efforts - that was the song Laugh At Me, and while his vocal efforts are not great, they are not bad enough to spoil what is a very good song.

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Incidentally, while Googling Sonny Bono I came across this bizarre news item about his death:
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/st ... 77,00.html
This item is 8 months old, but it's the first I have heard of this. Anyone heard more about this? Forgive me for drifting somewhat off-topic.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 12:22 pm 
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jeffbenton wrote:
Perhaps a challenger for the title "Best Elusive Butterfly Cover"?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vYkgO8KyvM

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Whoever posted those lyrics can't spell "abandoned". :-)

It is however a great version, probably as good as you could get without being practically a copy of the original. Actually the treatment is rather reminiscent of "Sweet Harriet".

Dolly Parton seems to have a thing about Butterflies doesn't she.

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Edit: I just spent a little time browsing YouTube for other covers of the song, and listened to the following artists:

- Dolly Parton
- Florence Henderson
- Aretha franklin
- The Four Tops
- Cher
- The man himself, performing against a backdrop of what looks like the Florida Everglades.

In my opinion:

- Dolly Parton's is by far the best cover;

- Cher's is not bad, though I thought the tempo a little too fast, it sounds as though she was hurrying to finish in a limited number of minutes and seconds;

- Florence Henderson: a little syrupy, but nicely done with plenty of emotion. I was actually worried I was going to sit through Kermit doing the song, I doubt he could have done as well!

- Aretha Franklin: it's almost impossible to ruin this song, but I'm afraid I think this comes close. Sorry Aretha, I really don't think this treatment serves the song well at all;

- Four Tops: I was surprised how much I liked this version. It's faithful to the song, and faithful also to the Four Tops' distinctive style;

- The Man Himself: still the best interpreter of the song, with or without Jack Nitzsche (sorry if I misspelled the name). Most artists don't get all the chords right, those major 7th chords that give the song that magical quality often come out simply as straight major chords.


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bob_32_116 wrote:

- Cher's is not bad, though I thought the tempo a little too fast, it sounds as though she was hurrying to finish in a limited number of minutes and seconds;



Just a little factoid that no-one wll even care about (I'm good at those)......all of Cher's records in the 60s were sped up. You have to slow them down to hear them at the actual speed they were recorded at. Phil Spector convinced Sonny that her voice was too deep and that she sounded like a guy, so Sonny sped up all the mastertapes of her 60s music.

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 Post subject: Re: LIND COVERS
PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:00 pm 
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How about a little Johnny Mathis?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_6nYMMgTTI

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PS:

If you haven't heard Bob's enchanting A New Year's Carol
check out the Playlist page on this website.

We all need this at least once a year!

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 Post subject: Re: LIND COVERS
PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 9:09 pm 
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Again, Rob, you have the info...

One quick digression, for what it's worth I really liked "Baby Don't Go" by S&C...

My fave "Butterfly" - Petula Clark; my least fave Lind cover - Keith Relf's ploddiing "Mr. Zero".

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 Post subject: LIND COVERS
PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 8:38 pm 
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Over the top with The Four Tops, one of the greatest groups!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYZt3Yq6d_E

Really enjoyed this one!

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 Post subject: Re: LIND COVERS
PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:24 am 
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One Bob Lind version that hasn't been mentioned is "Cheryl's Goin' Home", by Adam Faith in 1966 on
Parlophone R5516, which was a small hit in the UK.


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 Post subject: Re: LIND COVERS
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:35 am 
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Been away for a while and just found the you tube covers on Playlist page. Many good covers there but I particularly liked Susan Jacks rendering of "EB" and Nancy Sinatra's "Longtime Woman"


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 Post subject: Re: LIND COVERS
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I just became aware of another Elusive Butterfly cover! I am looking at a picture of an album cover for Lennon Sisters Today!! (For those not growing up in the USA in the 50's and early 60's, the Lennon Sisters were on the Lawrence Welk show and definitely not related to John Lennon!)
The cover lists the contents, including: California Dreamin', Different Drum, Green Tambourine, (He's) Just my Style, What the World Needs Now is Love and Elusive Butterfly among others. Obviously, this was probably recorded around 1968 or so. Hmmm.... wonder what this version sounds like.


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 Post subject: Re: LIND COVERS
PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:25 pm 
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Susanne Gilmore wrote:
I just became aware of another Elusive Butterfly cover! I am looking at a picture of an album cover for Lennon Sisters Today!! (For those not growing up in the USA in the 50's and early 60's, the Lennon Sisters were on the Lawrence Welk show and definitely not related to John Lennon!)
The cover lists the contents, including: California Dreamin', Different Drum, Green Tambourine, (He's) Just my Style, What the World Needs Now is Love and Elusive Butterfly among others. Obviously, this was probably recorded around 1968 or so. Hmmm.... wonder what this version sounds like.

Mention of California Dreamin' leads to thoughts of The Mamas and the Papas, which in turn evokes thoughts of The 5th Dimension, who were thought of as a black version of the Mamas and Papas until they had their big breakthrough hit with Jimmy Webb's "Up, Up and Away".

I currently have a 5th Dimension "Best of" album on loan from the library, and I am rediscovering how fresh and original those songs sounded. I imagine they could do a passable version of Butterfly.


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 Post subject: Re: LIND COVERS
PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:24 pm 
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Thanks Susanne. Every time I turn around I'm finding out about a new cover. I certainly remember the love-elly-ya-Lennon-a-Sisters but I didn't know they cut "EB." Never heard it.
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