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Liz
Joined: 27 Sep 2004
Posts: 14
Location: GEORGE, SOUTH AFRICA
Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 7:50 pm Post subject: Bob's new
music
Hi Bob,
Have just answered my own question re some of your new music,
found the page and downloaded China - haven't listened to it
yet - but would still like to buy a CD. Which one of your
songs did Hugh Masekela cover?
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Lind
Joined: 18 Aug 2004
Posts: 99
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 1:30 am Post subject:
Hey Liz,
Hugh M. covered "Elusive Butterly," some time ago. I
understand the album has been released on CD.
As far as my new things are concerned, the songs posted are
just demo quality. I'm playing all the instruments and
recorded them on my little home recorderd.
I'd feel a little too guilty selling them as they are.
But I'm in the process of recording them and some other
unreleased songs with a couple of brilliant young producers
who know what they're doing.
So hang on. It won't be long.
Thanks for your interest. Keep coming back to the board.
rob68
Joined: 09 Sep 2004
Posts: 73
Location: Michigan USA
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 5:06 am Post subject: new music
Hi Liz. Actually, you can hear all the new demos at the
playlist page. And read all the new lyrics. Hopefully, older
lyrics will be posted eventually. What's your opinion of
China? I think it's outstanding. Great to hear, Bob, that
you're recording in the studio. If the demos are this good,
the final versions should be great. Any projected release date
month?
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rob68
Joined: 09 Sep 2004
Posts: 73
Location: Michigan USA
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 4:29 am Post subject: cd
Hey Bob, Have you been in the studio with the new songs and a
producer? Looking forward to the finished product. Any
updates?
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Lind
Joined: 18 Aug 2004
Posts: 99
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 6:02 pm Post subject:
Hey Rob, you're asking on the perfect day. Last night I got a
copy of four new rough tracks that reflect the creativity and
brilliance of the new guys.
We're going slow but so far I'm knocked out by what they're
doing. No egos, no shopping-while-hungry production overkill.
They love my work and apply their considerable talents to it
with welcome sensitivity.
If you're interested, you might want to Google Chris Moll
(don't know his Website right off the bat) and try to find the
work he did with a group called SEE VENUS. Beautiful
arrangements.
The other fellow, Jon Wilkins, is more mysterious. He keeps a
very low profile, cyber-wise. (He posts here as Since There
Were Circles.)
He's a rare find: A drummer who also has a broad understanding
of music.
I call them Heaven and Earth: Chris writes these chilling
string, horn and synthesizer arrangements; Jon keeps it all
grounded with earthy rhythm-track ideas.
We're not rushing, but we're all dedicated toward creating
something memorable for people like you who have been so
faithful, patient and interested in the new stuff.
Stay close to the Website Rob, always good to hear from you.
rob68
Joined: 09 Sep 2004
Posts: 73
Location: Michigan USA
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2004 5:17 am Post subject: studio
Great! Chilling and moody and slightly offbeat is always the
way to go. You certainly don't want to make a "normal"
easy-listening record. You're much too deep for that. Sounds
cool, very promising.
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Liz
Joined: 27 Sep 2004
Posts: 14
Location: GEORGE, SOUTH AFRICA
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 9:11 pm Post subject:
Hi There Bob,
After listening over and over again I have to say that I love,
love, love the new music. Even though I am a lyrics person, I
love Waterfall and BocaMar. The sax is super.
Home in Time for Twilight is so, so lovely. I suppose it is
like good art - each finds his/her own message, but Twilight
is speaking to me on so many levels. "A precious piece of sun
left in the sky", "When love come late it comes to stay" and
"The sun sits at the edge of time and stays there" - brings
tears to my eyes and so much emotion.
Initially I thought that I preferred China, but then suddenly
Twilight hit me like a ton of bricks!
Have a Lovely Yesterday - is gorgeous and so clever!!
I have only one problem and that is with the sentiment in
Valentine .. The story is not consistent enough for me and
also why the problem with commitment. But then again who am I
and what do I know? Your music has stood the test of time for
so many of us.
Bob do you like Jim Croce, Don McLean, Mike Batt, Leonard
Cohen? They and you all have that special something, a nuance
that one can't put one's finger on - if you don't like their
work I will be surprised. What about Janis Ian and the lyrics
(only) of Kris Kristofferson? Who are your favourites? Sorry,
you're probably starting to get stressed out about all these
questions, but hey! that's the price of fame and genius!
Seriously though, nice that you are so human (are you?) and
not just a stuffed shirt (I said SHIRT). OK stopping now.
Liz.
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Lind
Joined: 18 Aug 2004
Posts: 99
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 3:13 am Post subject:
Hey Liz,
Thanks for your kind words about TWILIGHT. It's a song I
certainly couldn't have written in the 60s. It's always a joy
to hear people speaking glowingly about the new stuff.
As to your question:
I'm not aware of Mike Batt. So leaving him out of the
equation, you're putting me in some good company there,
particularly with Cohen.
I think he's brilliant. He has unfailing trust in his images
and doesn't censor his inner messenger. He was the guy who
taught me, (through a song called "Dress Rehearsal Rag") that
you can be funny and heartbreaking at the same time -- or more
correctly, that you can express images in which those labels
have no meaning.
A new song of mine called "LOOKING FOR YOU" (not on the
playlist yet) uses that tension, and I learned to trust it
from listening to Leonard Cohen.
My respect for Croce has deepened in the years since his
death. I didn't realize how great he was until just recently
when I stumbled onto a biography on him and really listened
full out.
I like his love songs better than his "story" songs -- but
that's a personal preference. "Time in a Bottle," "Operator"
and "I Love You in a Song" -- so touching.
And his give and take with that lead guitar player of his was
phenomenal.
What a loss, the two of them.
Kristofferson has always been a little too cerebral for me. I
always feel that brilliant, intellect calculating in his
songs. That's not meant as an insult, just a subjective
preference. I like emotion and instinct more than cleverness
and I sense him sometimes working his lyrics too hard for my
tastes.
He's a Rhodes Scholar and somehow, I can never forget that
listening to his down home, just-plain-folks songs.
I think he's an excellent actor. His work in STAR IS BORN is
wonderful.
Janis Ian and I once worked together for a week at an L.A.
club called the TROUBADOUR. She was young and so was I. I
don't think either of us were very well developed, musically,
at that point in our careers.
But we were attracting a similar crowd.
I haven't heard her new things.
I leave Don McLean for last because I'm trying to avoid saying
anything unkind. I'll say this: Vincent" is a passionate,
heart-wrenching song. And before I met him, his music could
make me cry.
But I can't be objective about it now. My brief meeting with
him colors my view of the songs. It may well have been as much
me as him -- I was certainly no picnic to be around in those
days -- but I was profoundly dissappointed in him as a human
being. I admired him so much and was stunned by what I
perceived as his rudeness and condescension to me.
Other friends who play music report similar experiences with
him.
Having that view of him robs me of the joy of his art. Too
bad, but that's how it is.
To paraphrase Emerson: What he is speaks so loudly I can't
hear what he sings.
Songwriters I like:
Of the newer breed, Jon Mayer and Jason Mraz stand out.
Contemporaries and near contemporaries (age wise)
Don Henley, Joni Mtchell, Jackson Browne, James Taylor, Dan
Fogelberg and Fagen & Becker (Steely Dan).
There's also a woman named Basia who is mysterious and rarely
plays anymore. She puts me on the floor.
And of course, Dylan is in a class all by himself.
So is Stephen Sondheim.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
bill
Joined: 12 Oct 2004
Posts: 18
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 5:25 pm Post subject:
Bob,
I remember once reading that Don McLean was quoted as saying
that he sang "Crying" better than it's auther ...Roy Orbinson.
While that likely says more about him than his music, I never
found either to be particulary interesting.
Were or are you interested in the "urban or protest" singers
like Phil Ochs & Eric Anderson. Phil took me to a whole new
level in my appreciation of folk music which later evolved
into "Folk Rock" ....how could it get any better than that,
the intelligence of lyrics with a beat !!
Bill
since_there_were_circles
Joined: 21 Aug 2004
Posts: 12
Location: FLA
Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 5:51 am Post subject:
Bob... what about Jason Falkner?!
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you know she's just a loner working easy undercover..."
rob68
Joined: 09 Sep 2004
Posts: 73
Location: Michigan USA
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 3:52 am Post subject: ol' folkies
Phil Ochs was great. Personally, I prefer the Pleasures of the
Harbor (and after) period. Also Tim Hardin was amazing. Both
troubled souls, as all the greats seem to be. Bob, any stories
or opinions on these two
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Lind
Joined: 18 Aug 2004
Posts: 99
Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 2:11 am Post subject:
Hey Rob, Unfortunately I knew both these men at a time when
their demons had almost entirely consumed them. Neither was a
pleasure to be around. Both deeply unhappy.
Phil hung around a club called the Troubadour in Los Angeles.
He was very manic. He had this alter-ego, dressed in gold lame
and did a kind of Elvis thing -- onstage and off. If it had
some kind of deeper meaning, or if it was funny in some way,
no one got it. Everyone was just embarrassed for him.
When I knew him he was way out of his prime. Onstage, he was
always getting into argments with people in the audience,
calling them "stupid" that kind of thing.
He didn't seem morose, the way Tim did. But he wasn't at home
in this world. Always ill at ease. Even when he was unpleasant
(and don't misunderstand, he was never anything but polite to
me) no one took offense. Everyone just found him pathetic, not
dangerous or threatening.
Too bad. Because I feel, had he begun to transcend the bind
his style was starting to put him in, he would be writing
great stuff today.
Tim Hardin was a different story. He too was alienating his
friends toward the end of his life. But he was hostile and
almost biker-like. Spikes up all around him. Barbed wire and
an invisible sign that said "Don't get to Close Because I
Might Explode and Kill Both of Us."
I first met him in late '66, I think, in my managers' office.
He was still vital then. Clear-eyed and alive and vibrant.
I had just released "San Francisco Woman" and had come into
the office to see how it was doing. Hardin was there visiting
on some kind of business.
From the moment we were introduced he started getting sullen
and terse. It was as if he had taken an instant dislike to me.
It didn't make any sense. You know those deals where you
examine your behavior and ask yourself what you could've done
to offend someone?
I couldn't come up with anything so I just dismissed it.
Later I ran into a woman who knew him and I told her about our
meeting. "Something about me must have bugged him," I told
her.
And she said, "Jesus, don't you know why he was that way?"
I said I didn't.
She told me he was getting flack from everyone about the
bridge to "If I Was a Carpenter."
I looked at her with these dull-fish eyes. "Huh?"
Turns out people were accusing him of ripping off the melody
on "I Just Let It Take Me."
I certainly never picked up on it. I truly don't think he
stole from me (I'd actually be amazed if he'd ever heard my
song, it went directly into the toilet on the B side of "Truly
Julie's Blues.")
When I heard "Carpenter" next time, I could sort of see how
people felt that way, (the tune on the "save my love through
loneliness, save my love through sorrow" part) but I'm
convinced it was just a coincidence. That stuff happens a lot
with melodic fragments.
Anyway the next time I saw him was years later, just weeks
before he died. I went to see John Sebastian at the Troubadour
and Hardin came. They were old firends. Tim was drunk and
maudlin and looked awful. He was balding on top, shaggy-haired
on the sides and badly bloated. He kept talking to John,
repeating himself over and over.
I was watching/listening from a short distance away and what I
remember most was the kindness in Sebastian's eyes. He was so
patient and non-judgemental. Just let the poor guy gush and
slur and slobber.
Believe it or not, I have never really met John, I just
introduced myself that night and, although he was an idol of
mine (I think "Younger Generation" is brilliant), he had
apparently no idea who I was.
But I'll always remember that patience and kindness in his
eyes as he spoke -- or more correctly listened -- to Tim
Hardin.
Abut a month later, Tim died and there was a memorial for him
at the Troub.
I went, not out of reverence, but because the booze was free.
Everyone got drunk and acted like idiots.
rob68
Joined: 09 Sep 2004
Posts: 73
Location: Michigan USA
Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 5:11 am Post subject: wild men
Wow, another case of "be careful what you ask for". No,
actually I'm not surprised. I knew both were pretty troubled.
I just read an interview with Tim Hardin, done a couple months
before he died. He sounded pretty bad. But strangely enough,
his Homecoming Concert cd (also just before he died) is
totally beautiful. Kinda like how the Let's Get Lost
soundtrack (Chet Baker) is some of Chet's most emotional
singing, not long before he died. Well thankfully, the sad
stories fade away, but the music lives on loud and clear.
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Guest
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 7:02 pm Post subject:
Welcome to the board, Frank. Good to have you with us.
Sorry, I don't think I've ever even seen that single, much
less owned it.
Good luck finding it. Maybe one of the Lind enthusiasts on
this forum will respond. A lot of them keep surprising me with
music of mine that I had either forgotten or never knew about.
I'm far more interested in where I'm going than where I've
been, but I'm grateful for you people with the long memories
and the dedicated interest in my career.
Stay with us.
Guest
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 7:06 pm Post subject:
The "guest" is me, BTW, Lind.
Guest
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 3:30 am Post subject:
no new music in three decades-kind of hard to talk about new
stuff. all those old songs were once "where you were going".
you need to embrace them rather than consider them wicked
stepchildren. they're all you're represented by as far as the
general public goes. four albums and a couple assorted singles
in four decades. some people run-some people crawl-time oh
time-where did you go?
fortyfivesfrank
Joined: 30 Nov 2004
Posts: 4
Location: Mentor, Ohio
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 11:39 am Post subject: New songs
!!
Bob, the long bridges of time can be easily be shortened with
new music from you...fans "cling" to the old, but wait
enthusiasticly for MORE!!!! What, if any, contact have you had
or still have, with John Gummoe? He also has a website that,
like yours, keeps fan up-to-date on activities...and since
you're in FLA do you ever encounter Bobby Goldsboro?
~ Frank
Lind
Joined: 18 Aug 2004
Posts: 108
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 4:50 am Post subject:
To Frank and the Guest who posted above him:
Thanks, both of you. I can always tell when I'm hearing the
truth. My jaw clenches, my chest gets tight and I think of all
kinds of arguments to show the person talking to me how
stupidly wrong he is.
The higher my body temperature goes, the greater the odds he's
onto something.
To Guest: You're absolutely right about no product. I can see
how empty it sounds listening to a guy disowning the past when
he's not showing you anything in the present.
Of course I have scads of new songs -- as you may know from
reading other posts on this board from people who have heard
me perform this year. And the new songs are so much better
than the old ones that when I listen to the WORLD PACIFIC
stuff . . . well... I don't know how old you are, but maybe
you can relate to looking at your picture in your high school
yearbook. Maybe you had some wise-ass haircut, wearing some
hopelessly outdated shirt you thought was tres cool at the
time, smiling like you're God's Gift To.... And from your
present vantage point all you can do is cringe.
It's not that you weren't your absolute best at the time, it's
just that you've reached a point at which your best at that
time looks a little silly, a little embarrassing.
That's how I feel about the old stuff.
But, that said, you certainly deserve something in the way of
new recorded material.
The difficulties of finding the right producer, the right
situation, the right musicians sound like lame excuses, (Other
guys manage.) but they're the best I can offer at this point.
I've just gotten back into performing this year.
All I can say -- to both of you; Guest AND Frank -- is that I
promise to have something out there next year.
Don't give up on me.
I'm rollin.
Meanwhile, I hope you'll listen to the songs on the Playlist.
Get past the recording quality if you can.
rob68
Joined: 09 Sep 2004
Posts: 80
Location: Michigan USA
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:31 am Post subject: criticism
Frank, There's a reason for everything. Everyone's lives
aren't ruled by their careers. What's that old saying?
Something like "life gets in the way when you're trying to
have a career." I'm sure there was a period of time when Bob
just wasn't in the right state-of-mind to put out new music.
He did continue to write, and I know for a fact that music is
his greatest love. You can just see it when he performs....
...and personally, I'll take quality over quantity anytime.
Keep Rockin' Bob
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fortyfivesfrank
Joined: 30 Nov 2004
Posts: 4
Location: Mentor, Ohio
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 12:05 pm Post subject:
There was always quality in everything Bob has done...and I
can "wish" for both because I won't have to choose one over
the other...quantity of Bob Lind's work = quality times
10...there is no moderation needed when I listen to
BL...Timeless and Great!...and I want MORE! Period....when Bob
is good and ready!
~ Frank.
bill
Joined: 12 Oct 2004
Posts: 21
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 10:24 pm Post subject:
"Artists" deliver when they are ready!! They provide us ...and
themselves (the two not being mutually exclusive)...with art
not product. I am just happy to know Bob is doing well and so
willing to share his thoughts, observations and music with us
still. For years and right up to this day, when I am uncertain
as to what to listen to, I still turn to Bob. I have listened
to his tunes thousands of times and will listen to them a
thousand times again. We the "listeners" always want more. I
wished for 20 years and was rewarded with "The Best Of"
.....wow stereo with bonus tracks to boot. I waited 25 years
and actually purchased "Since There Were Circles." I will wish
for more but am content with what I have.
Bill
Matt
Joined: 12 Oct 2004
Posts: 16
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 11:14 pm Post subject:
Based purely on Bob's already existing recordings, that's
enough to sell me on the idea that new Bob music will be well
worth the wait. I think it's great how Bob has even posted
demos of new songs as a sneak peak for what's to come. For
whatever the reason may be, artists make their comebacks when
they are good and ready. Look at Brian Wilson as an
example...locked in his room for years, shying away from
touring and his role as leader of the Beach Boys/musical
genius. Now he's doing extensive touring in back of an album,
"Smile," which was to be his masterwork when he was 24 years
old. Strange things happen in the wonderful world of music,
but it's great to be a fan when they do.
bill
Joined: 12 Oct 2004
Posts: 21
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2004 12:12 am Post subject:
"Sail on Sail on Sailor" .....Bill
Rodger Thompson
Joined: 30 Sep 2004
Posts: 6
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2004 1:49 am Post subject:
Hey Bob! Did you say scads of new songs? Wonderful news,
wonderful news indeed. I love the old stuff, love the new
stuff...Heck! If it's Lind's stuff, I'm as happy as a mosquito
in a nudist colony. I connect so completely with all your
music. I think we share a cosmic connection. After all, we
both were born the same month, in the same year, in the same
city...I didn't live there long either. So glad you're finally
back...a true Christmas present received early.
Rodger Thompson (Big-Time fan in NC)
Liz
Joined: 27 Sep 2004
Posts: 14
Location: GEORGE, SOUTH AFRICA
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2004 2:50 pm Post subject: 'Wicked
Stepchildren"
Bob,
Your new music is not “better” than the old – it is just
different. The old music was right for the times – it was
right for you and it was right for us – the fans. Don’t forget
we got on board with you DECADES ago on the strength of the
“wicked stepchildren”. We will never disown them and we are
still here on the other end of a long dry journey!! Just as
that haircut (or whatever) may look funny to you now, your
present haircut would not have turned me on then! You have no
way of knowing what precious memories and emotions those songs
evoke in us. Saying that they are bad could just cast
aspersions on our taste and musical intelligence. Where you
(and we) have been is what shaped us, and what is shaping the
new stuff you are creating now. Your job, today, is to bring
us along with you as your music develops and changes.
Hopefully (and so far it appears to be so) we are all still on
the same musical and lyrical track. Listen to your fans Bob -
we're saying it like it is! I'm still on board!
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Rob68
Joined: 09 Sep 2004
Posts: 80
Location: Michigan USA
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 4:19 am Post subject: roads of
anger?
The name of this thread turned out to be quite appropriate,
after all .....Liz, Bob never used the words "wicked
stepchildren", someone else did. But I remember when I read
the song-by-song liner notes in the Best Of CD. Bob's
extremely critical comments on his old songs almost ruined the
music for me. I wondered why he wasn't at a point where he
could at least just view them as charming relics of his youth.
After all, 30+ years later, of course we would assume that
he's made alot of musical progression since the 60's. When I
just put it down to "a person is usually their own worst
critic", and "no-one ever sees themselves the way other people
do", I was able to enjoy the music again. Don't let anyone's
comments affect your gut reactions to the old music. Those
emotions are yours alone, and are true and sacred.
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Matt
Joined: 12 Oct 2004
Posts: 16
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 5:27 am Post subject:
In my experiences, it can usually turn out to be a good thing
when an artist doesn't like his own work (from the past). Bob
seems like a very selfless musician and is willing to
continually leave room for improvement. Just like Bob said,
not that he wasn't the absolute best he could be in the
1960's, he's come a long way since. It's the proverbial
"artist's challenge" that sometimes results in his best work.
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Lind
Joined: 18 Aug 2004
Posts: 108
Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 1:36 am Post subject: Long-Time
Woman
I've had so many e-mails from people asking me about the song
newly posted in video format on the TOURS PAGE, I decided the
easiest thing to do is to post a thread about it here.
"Long-Time Woman" is an old song, late 1966. This video was
done in the early 90s, when I went up to Massachusetts to
visit Jackie and Arlo Guthrie on their farm in the Berkshires.
Jackie turned the camera on and said, "Why don't you sing a
few songs?" I started playing and she taped me for about three
days straight. I sang up every song I knew, to paraphrase
Kristofferson.
At some point, Jackie asked me to play "L-TW." I hadn't played
it in about 10 years. I'm amazed I even remembered it.
I never expected the clip would end up on my website. (No one
knew there even WERE such things as websites then.)
But Jackie and grant have conspired behind my back and put it
up. Now I'm stuck with it.
First the words, then the story.
I've heard from others that the lyrics don't come through
completely clear on the MP3.
LONG-TIME WOMAN
Sorrow is a long-time woman
Resting on a nowdays mind.
When her vision haunts your mornings,
Tears will not be far behind.
In the time that grows between you,
You may try a thousand times.
But you will not erase her image
With your one-night valentines.
One sad question never leaves your mind:
"Could we have made it if we'd tried
Just one more time?"
Love may come again
To find you younger than you thought you were.
But never will your long-time woman
Leave the place you've made for her.
Like a lot of my songs, this one's prophetic. It was written
before the event that inspired it.
I was with a God's-Gift, once-in-a-lifetime woman then and I
didn't know how to handle the good fortune the fates had
handed me. I knew I was pushing her away, but I didn't know
how to stop. I was a drunken speed-freak without a clue about
how to carry on a relationship with a woman who possessed a
genuine capacity for love.
I stayed up all night writing this song and in the morning I
played it for my woman and a friend who was staying with us.
We were all crying and I thought, "Whoa! What's this all
about?"
About six months later, I figured it out. I was -- deservedly
-- alone, and the song had acquired....shall we say, "special
meaning" for me.
Of tangential interest: I never in a million years would have
suspected that anyone would cover this song. It seemed too
intensely jagged and personal.
And I certainly never thought a woman would want to sing it.
But Nancy Sinatra completely blew me away. I never
particularly respected her. But to my utter amazement, she cut
the song on her NANCY album and, of the 200-plus covers of my
songs, it endures as one of my favorites.
She renders it with such no-bullshit sensitivity -- a total
lack of showiness. Just straight ahead honesty. Man!
Lately, I've begun doing the song in person again. Sometimes,
I sing an extra verse:
"After all the one-more-chances
Drift away on tides of change,
Love is gone, but still you tremble
When somebody speaks her name."
Overkill, I realize. But if I'm feeling particularly maudlin
and cry-in-your-beer, I sing it.
NOTE: The adjective "cry-in-your-beer" is figuratve. Many of
you know that this July (2005) I'll celebrate 28 years clean
and sober.
rob68
Joined: 09 Sep 2004
Posts: 80
Location: Michigan USA
Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 3:02 am Post subject:
Wow, amazing post! Congrats on the long sobriety....good for
you. OK, I'm on my way over with a case of non-alcoholic beer.
Long Time Woman is a great song...I know it was never
released, but was it recorded for World Pacific back in the
day? Haven't heard Nancy's version, and I'm not really a fan
of hers, but sometimes she does have a knack for being really
centered and no-frills with some songs....she probably learned
that from Lee.
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Elizabeth
Joined: 01 Feb 2005
Posts: 10
Location: Houston, TX
Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 4:06 am Post subject:
The song is beautiful. I've played it about 50 times now.
Thank you for posting about it and thank you for your awesome
talent.
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Seeker2be@aol.com
Guest
Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 3:43 am Post subject: Branch of
dead leaves and other haunting songs and gratitude
Bob: Thank you for your wonderful haunting songs, all the
times at the Ice House I didnt miss, all the times at the
Troubador and thanks for doing the LA Free Clinic benefit with
Hoyt Axton at USC I really loved both your spirits. You had so
many songs on demo records I listened to in your house in LA.
I wish I had them all now. I loved Branch of Dead Leaves , one
of your best. I wish I had a copy of that . It still rings in
my mind "obligation scares you your hung up on stringless
living. Why can't you see your only free to walk around your
prison dragging your branch of dead leaves....: Love It!!!
You inspired my life and career hurdles with your songs. I
have all your albums. I loved Since there were circles and
want to convert that record to a CD. Many many Songs so great
so many unrecorded or published. What a shame. Too bad you
dont put all those master records together and sell them on
line. I would gladly buy them as I am sure would others. Thank
you for inspiring me the many lonely nights I spent in Mexico
going to Medical School. You always saw things in a fresher
light yet no one noticed your brilliance. You lighted my
career. Thanks Ed Hackie MD
Lind
Joined: 18 Aug 2004
Posts: 138
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 9:47 pm Post subject:
Hi Ed. Strange what one remembers and what one forgets. I do
indeed recall that Free Clinic Benefit with Hoyt. But can't
exactly place you.
You stun me, however, with what YOU remember. Man! "Branch of
Dead Leaves." I don't think I've thought of that song in 30
years. And the fact that you not only remember it but can
quote from it.... Well, it means you took considerably fewer
drugs than I did during that turbulent decade.
I appreciate your words about the Troub and Ice House shows.
And I hope I get to your neck of the woods because I feel I'm
performing, writing and singing far better now than I did
Circa 1966-1971.
If you haven't done so yet, please checkout the demos on the
Playlist section of this board.
Keep posting here. Always glad to hear from a 60s survivor --
and bonus points that you made it through med school. My fan,
the doctah. My mother will be so proud.
All the best, Bob
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Guest
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 9:58 pm Post subject: Some lyrics
Branch of Dead Leaves
Though I have sung what I remember of this song to myself for
30 years I dont remember it all or if I have it correctly. I
wish I did. Here is what I remember. By the way my friend Ken
and I came over to your house in LA and spent time on the
Trampoline in your yard. ED
Branch of Dead leaves:
Child of the Afternoon , where will you be tomorrow? You've
got so much love inside yourself but too much pride to
borrow... Why can't you see your'e only free to walk around
your prison . Your not crippled... with life inside you.
Dragging your branch of dead leaves....
The ones who turn their backs on you are easily forgiven.
Obligation scares you , You're hung up on stringless living.
Why can't you see your ownly free to walk around your prison?
you with love inside you. Dragging your branch of deadleaves.
Dragging your branch of dead leaves.
I wish I remembered the rest.
Dale
Joined: 17 Aug 2004
Posts: 18
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 11:12 pm Post subject: trampoline
Hey, Ed....I remember that trampoline too. I almost killed
myself on it. Of course, a bottle of rye whiskey played a big
part in my lack of coordination. Thank goodness I've matured
since then. Yeah, right......
rob68
Joined: 09 Sep 2004
Posts: 95
Location: Michigan USA
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 12:51 am Post subject: Dead Leaves
and the Dirty Ground, wait, that's White Stripes
WOW! Now that's a demo that would GLADLY have me reaching for
my wallet..........Bob, do you seriously have tons of older
demos still intact? Cuz' you might consider putting them
babies to CD and selling them to the willing and eager among
us......of which there are many! Just do it! Life is short!
Time's-a-tickin'......someone really needs to check into these
clocks.....they're all running way too fast.
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Guest
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 3:53 am Post subject: We need an
Anthology
Bob : There was another song about Blue, salty Blue or
something. Many wonderful demos I listened to in 1968. This
wonderful music should not be lost in the dust somewhere.
Interestingly enough I was looking up Hoyt Axton's music
yesterday and found
this:
http://www.hoytsmusic.com/treasure.htm Worth the read.
The process can work an Anthology of your wonderful music too
so it is not lost. Thanks, Ed
Seeker2be
Guest
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 6:33 am Post subject: Another
simple request
Bob: Think about Ferris mastering where they turn records into
CD's with remastering clean up.
http://www.ferrismastering.com/ I would be overjoyed to donate
a couple of hundred dollars to this worthwhile project to get
your wonderful Demo record and other concert music of the 70's
onto CDs. You dont have the time to do the work yourself while
creating and evolving more music. I think all of us fans are
clamoring for the Lost Lind music . I was reading a Hoyt Axton
site:
http://www.hoytsmusic.com/treasure.htm. The efforts to
preserve his music chronicled there were extra ordinary and
worth the sobering read. One of the CD's even has a cut that
even talks about you, Bob Lind. So music like the days and
nights and heartbeats of all of us are intertwined if you look
for the genealogy. There is an errie message there from the
Grave... Save the beauty and your music for posterity or it
might be lost. We love your music, your talent, your creative
genius. Please dont let the past wonderful demo music be lost
in a dusty closet! I knew what a treasure it was when I
listened to all those Demo disks in LA in 1968. An
appreciative fan, Ed
Lind
Joined: 18 Aug 2004
Posts: 138
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 10:53 pm Post subject:
Hey Ed, Thanks for your enthusiasm and the offer of financial
help. But save your money for Christmas when (knock wood) the
new CD will be out and available. Then you can plunk down
those C notes for gift albums for all your many friends and
patients.
Again, I urge you to listen to the new music in the playlist
section.
I loved Hoyt and I'm glad his old stuff has been reissued.
But there's a major difference between Hoyt and me:
I'm still alive.
I don't plan on dying in the next few minutes and the
songwriting machinery still churns boys (Rob, I'm including
you in this).
Meanwhile:
SALTY BLUE
Four o'clock the doors are locked
And all my friends are gone
My silver strings will spin and ring,
Long into the dawn.
I can't stop now.
Salty Blue. I'm blaming you.
Everyone was tired or they had someplace to be
No one seemed to want to keep the party going but me
So here I am
Shining through Salty Blue.
There are a couple more verses but they're gone. Jackie, Dale
or one of the other 60s vets may remember. But I'm in forward
gear.
Seeker2be@aol.com
Guest
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:16 am Post subject: Salty Blue
Wow!!! After listening to your Demo disk 30 years ago I at
least remembered the name Salty Blue. Thanks for completing
and helping me relive that memory. Loved that song too. Ed
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:05 pm Post subject: Cd purchase
Hi Bob,
can you tell me where I can order at one reasonable price
(not on amazon...) one of your "best of Cd" ?
Unfortunately I can't find any source over here.
Thanks & have a great day!
Greetings from Germany
Carlo
Lind
Joined: 18 Aug 2004
Posts: 186
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:15 am Post subject:
Hey Carlo, welcome to the message board. It's good to have you
with us. Thanks for helping to make this forum International.
We have some other people from Germany here as well as members
from England, South Africa, Australia and Brazil.
It's great to feel like I'm reaching into the wider world.
Sorry to say all my CDs are currently out of print. That's
going to change very very soon. But for now, let me suggest
that you keep coming back to this thread. People here are
extremely generous with Bob Lind music and I wouldn't be
surprised if you heard from someone who will sell you a disc
at a very reasonable price. Some people here have even been
known to burn Lind CDs and give them away.
Thanks again for joining us Carlo. Stay close.
rob68
Joined: 09 Sep 2004
Posts: 135
Location: Michigan USA
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:47 am Post subject:
Lind wrote:
Sorry to say all my CDs are currently out of print.
That's going to change very very soon.
Ahem ........someone has some beans to spill........hope we
don't have to wait much longer for this info.
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bill
Joined: 12 Oct 2004
Posts: 55
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 5:51 pm Post subject:
Agreed !!!! Tick Tick Tick ....Bill
Seeker2be
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 11:49 pm Post subject: Best of Bob
Lind
I have 2 original copies and would be happy to burn you one .
Let me know.
Seeker2be@aol.com
oldcapellon
Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 2
Location: Germany
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 10:16 am Post subject: Re: Best of
Bob Lind
Seeker2be wrote:
I have 2 original copies and would be happy to burn you
one . Let me know.
Seeker2be@aol.com
! You made my Day !
I'll send you an e-mail...
Thanks !
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oldcapellon
Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 2
Location: Germany
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 10:18 am Post subject:
Lind wrote:
Hey Carlo, welcome to the message board. It's good to
have you with us. Thanks for helping to make this forum
International. We have some other people from Germany
here as well as members from England, South Africa,
Australia and Brazil.
It's great to feel like I'm reaching into the wider
world.
Sorry to say all my CDs are currently out of print.
That's going to change very very soon. But for now, let
me suggest that you keep coming back to this thread.
People here are extremely generous with Bob Lind music
and I wouldn't be surprised if you heard from someone
who will sell you a disc at a very reasonable price.
Some people here have even been known to burn Lind CDs
and give them away.
Thanks again for joining us Carlo. Stay close.
Thanks Bob !
I'll stay on the loop..
Ciao
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rob68
Joined: 09 Sep 2004
Posts: 73
Location: Michigan USA
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 4:42 pm Post subject: new demos
The.......3........new demos sound great! Never Even There
isn't working yet.......great music, Bob!
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rob68
Joined: 09 Sep 2004
Posts: 73
Location: Michigan USA
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 5:19 pm Post subject: never even
there
....working now, thanks!
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ChuckB
Joined: 23 Mar 2006
Posts: 2
Location: Ohio
Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:44 pm Post subject: Greetings
from Ohio...
Bob,
I cannot tell you how pleased I am to hear your voice again,
and that it is as clear and true as ever. I produce several
Internet radio shows, partnered with my two best friends. One
of them, Frank Kramer, purchased your new CD, and I just
visited him yesterday and we listened to your CD. You might
remember Frank as "the 45's man". I am the "charts man", as I
have every song to hit the Billboard Hot 100 since 1955.
Between the two of us, we have a tremendous amount of music
and take great delight in sharing as many as possible with our
worldwide audience.
I do a lot of "theme" shows, and last week, my show was called
"songs about walking" which was a theme suggested by a local
listener. All the songs had the word "walk" in the title, and
you were represented just before the end of my first hour with
"I Can't Walk The Roads Of Anger" which I remember fondly from
your World Pacific days.
I was in the Air Force when your albums came out, and while I
loved "Elusive Butterfly" my two favorites were "Remember The
Rain" and "Counting". I was stationed at Clark AFB in the
Phillipines and damn near wore out your albums.
You have a link for John Claude Gummoe's website, and I was
fortunate enough to interview John (a native Clevelander) on a
"spotlight" show I did quite a few years back. If you're
interested, we'd love to do a spotlight show on you also. All
I need is a phone interview, since I'm the producer, host, PD,
and clean-up guy all rolled up into one.
We are broadcasting via a friends station for now, but we hope
to launch our own 24/7 station in September. As our name
implies, Songs You Should Have Heard, we don't shy away from
unknown artists. If it's a great song, we play it. Plus, we
play songs that hit the charts that haven't been on radio for
over 40 years. It's great fun, and I've made a bunch of great
new friends from the experience.
Keep singing Bob, you are a true poet and wordsmith, and if
there's one thing we need in our society right now is a lot
more romanticisn. We have enough cynicism, arrogance and
hatred to last forever, we need more innocence, truth and
love. More songs and lyrics from you should fill the bill.
I heard you comment that you stopped writing protest songs,
but our country needs you. We need a hero... a knight in
shining armor with three words on his crest... common sense,
creativity, and courage, to fight the dragon of Corporatism.
This struggle is a song waiting to be written. If we lose this
battle, we'll become another France... and all the cheese and
wine in the world isn't worth that! Help us Bob, write a song
to preserve Democracy.
Sorry for the display of passion, I realize that's not
politically correct or acceptable either...
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Songs You Should Have Heard
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JohnB
Joined: 21 Mar 2006
Posts: 3
Location: Meridian MS
Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 1:48 pm Post subject:
Hey Chuck, thanks for expressing some things I've had on my
own mind lately, namely the evils of the Mega-Corporations. We
are in trouble in this country, and we are lied to and shafted
at every turn. We DO need a torchbearer whose message will
reach the people who want to make a difference.
Now a question: how and where can I tune in to your broadcast
in Mississippi? Thanks, and keep it up!
ChuckB
Joined: 23 Mar 2006
Posts: 2
Location: Ohio
Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 4:50 pm Post subject:
John,
Thanks for your comments. Politicians, no matter the party are
NOT going to help us. Corporations, through lobbyists has
bought and paid for the power they wield over us. We are being
poisoned by chemicals by the food industry and the
pharmaceutical industry comes to the rescue with pills to
counterbalance the damage that the government should'nt have
allowed in the first place.
I am the father of four, grandfather of four. Three are
college graduates and one is about 2/3 of the way towards a
degree. When they get them, unless they are "professionals" or
get a doctorate, it just means their resume gets bumped up to
the top at Wal-Mart. The greed, outsourcing and destruction of
the US economy just sickens me, and yet we elected the
politicians that let it happen. This is NOT a liberal,
conservative, Democrat or Republican problem, it is an
AMERICAN problem.
In 1966, when I was enjoying Bob's songs so much, I was
serving in Air Force Intelligence. When I got out, I not only
had jobs to pursue, I actually had career paths to pursue. I
chose the computer industry, and did just fine until my age
caught up with me. At FORTY-FIVE, I was cast aside...making
too much, and over qualified. When I turned 50, I turned to my
love of music and created a radio show. I then became
acquainted with the power and politics of the radio industry
and after four years found myself on the outside looking in
once again.
I have bee
right Bob?